As I look back on my night game from basically what is almost reaching a year and half now of writing this blog – I realize one huge thing – the majority of my successes in night game come from a.) street game in between the bars and b.) actual night clubs. Yet, most of my time in night time scenarios have been spent in bars – not in clubs and not in the street. Yet, most of my successes come from clubs.. and the street. 80/20 rule at play again?
The obvious reasons for this is….. bars actually suck.
They’re usually full of people in large groups out for a birthday party or a bachelorette party, etc. They’re also commonly filled with mixed groups – men and women. Also, they play music, maybe not as loud as dance clubs, but still too loud to hold a conversation well enough for half the people you’re talking to get your sarcasm. I can’t even count the number of times I’ve made witty remarks to one of my wingmen in a bar and he totally misheard me.
The street between the bars is conducive to game because you can talk, you can tease girls and they’ll actually get it.
And, night clubs are good to me, because of…. yep, dancing! I don’t even consider myself a dancer, but what dancing with chicks does is provides you an ample reason to get close – it’s also an easy way to escalate, and get at least a make-out.
Ever since I’ve gotten back from London, I’ve been wanting to get my ass out to more night clubs to work on this Rapid Escalation shit Moran taught me.
I honestly think night clubs are the best place for SNL opportunities for me right now, even though out of all of my SNL’s (3 of them) since starting this blog – only one came from night club game… the other two came from street game. If you wanna talk about my other three notches that were almost SNL’s, but instead were easy day two notches – one from a mix of bar game and night club game (bar upstairs, dance floor downstairs), and the other two came from street game between the bars.
So, essentially, I’ve spent an assload of time in bars and can only contribute a small portion of phone numbers to that time,
Whereas most of my phone numbers in night game have come from street game. Most of my make-outs in night game have come from night clubs, particularly the dance floor.
Yet, I hardly ever go to night clubs.
One almost wonders why….
It’s because I keep meeting wings, whether my normal friends or these PUA forum types who think bars are somehow better, they give reasons like “night clubs are too dark”, or “the music is too loud”, or “I don’t dance”.
Going to a night club and not dancing is like going to a bar and not drinking. Sure, you can do it, but somebody is going to ask you why… also, in my opinion, both aren’t very fun.
So, I’ve reached a point, where…. and this is after the Colombian ordeal the other Friday night, where I’ve basically developed my night club game model.
I’m not re-inventing the wheel here, this is just basically how I’ve done it in night clubs for the past year or so, and with some tweaks and things added in from Moran when I went to London. I won’t go too much into the rapid escalation part here, because that’s his thing, although that is very well tied in with my night club game now.
These are just the basic steps. Easy to run, very high chance of a make-out, and if your end game is nice and you can work the logistics out (because logistics is what kills most SNLs), there should be some SNL opportunities too…
- Step 1: Get to the club early with your wings. Grab a beer and pick a good spot. This is important – back to the bar is usually a good spot. You don’t want to be standing off to the side of the dance floor looking like a creep, so pick a spot where some traffic is sure to walk by.
- Step 2: Stay there and talk to your wings for the next 30 minutes to an hour. Ignore everybody else. Talk, engage all of your wings in conversation. Laugh it up, etc. Again, this why by the bar is usually a good spot – bars are usually off to the side in night clubs and the music isn’t as loud by the bar, because the bartenders have to be able to hear the drink orders. Make sure to engage all of your wings in conversation too – don’t leave anybody out because they lose value if they’re standing there looking at you like an outcast. You should look like y’all are having fun and aren’t just sharking the bar for attractive girls. You’re actually barely looking around at this point – focused on your group.
- Step 3: Open a set that comes close to you. Sooner or later a girl you want is going to walk by you or walk up next to you to order a drink at the bar. Open her. The opener doesn’t matter, use your normal bar opener or whatever situational opener you think of. Get her talking, she doesn’t even have to be your target. Some guys will say it’s better if you open the girl that’s not your target first. I think it doesn’t matter either way. Either way, get whoever you opened to introduce you to her friends, and then you introduce the whole set to your wings – here’s where you chose your target.
- Step 4: After the introduction and initial ‘my group meets your group’ greetings, isolate your target a bit. Run normal attraction game.
- Step 5: A small bit of comfort and rapport after and mixed in with some attraction game.
- Step 6: Extract her to the dance floor. This is easy. Grab her hand and say, “c’mon.” She’ll come.
- Step 7: Dance with her. Have fun, don’t be stiff.
- Step 8: While you’re dancing with her, pull her close and run simple rapport game. Don’t talk about any thing elaborate, just really simple shit – it’s loud so you can’t have complex conversation. You can also start to work logistics out here too.
- Step 9: After a couple of songs, escalate. Make out with her, lick her neck, and talk dirty in her ear. Make her wet until she can’t stand it. You’ll likely get some kind of moan out of her if you do this right.
- Step 10: Run game as you see fit. Escalate her more. Push/pull a bit if needed. Try to extract her and go for the SNL.
Again, I’ve only run the above scenario a handful of times, but it’s by far been the most successful thing I’ve done if you look at lays per times attempted, and it’s almost 100% for me on make-outs. I think there was one time I didn’t get the make-out doing this…. and that was a long time ago.
Another caveat though: If you don’t get the SNL, you’re likely to never hear from her again. Even if the reason was only logistics. This is essentially going for the SNL and that’s it. I believe Mystery referred to this as “Fool’s Mate” in Mystery Method. This is largely because you’re skipping comfort/rapport and just taking her to a heightened state of attraction really fast and blurring that right over to seduction.
If you do get the SNL, give her the comfort/rapport afterwards if you want to see her again.
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It’s Fool’s Mate, which is where you’re going for the 3 move checkmate. If you don’t make it you’re basically fucked, hence the analogy.
Oh yeah. That’s right. Thanks.
” I can’t even count the number of times I’ve made witty remarks to one of my wingmen in a bar and he totally misheard me.”
this is funny
i like your strategy, willy.
i have been running a lot of day street game, but i can’t be afraid of going to the bars and clubs at night. girls in bars and clubs at night are halfway there. they are already thinking about sex. girls at cvs are thinking about paper towels.
Good article.I agree with you 1000%;night clubs are the best venues for SNL’s.I wrote a post on this the other day on my blog.http://kennyspuathoughts.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/how-to-really-pick-up-the-hottest-girl-in-the-club-whos-usually-bitchy/
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I really like that insight at the end about running comfort after you get the bang in “Fool’s Mate.” I’d say that was definitely the reason I didn’t see my most recent SNL again. I basically orgasmed and got the hell out of there.
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