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The Average Chick vs. The Hot Chick (Willy Wonka Reflects…)

I didn’t go on my date with Freshman Orientation afterall.  She flaked saying she that something came up and she had to go to her hometown.  She tried to move it back for later in the day, but I couldn’t because I already had plans with Army Brat.

My last night in town…

I was hoping I could go out on a high note and get new notches on both of last two nights in town.  But, my second date with Army Brat was earily similar to my second date with Crush.  A lot of making out and stuff, and I got up under the shirt and played with a nipple and then I got a “it’s late, I should get going” type of thing.

And, when she left, I really started thinking.  As my last night in a city that I’ve called home for 6 years was drawing to a close, I couldn’t help but to reflect on my experiences here…

This city made me a man…

I’m going home to my parent’s house.  A place I haven’t lived in since high school.  The creativity on where to f-close chicks is going to be all the more crucial now.

But, even more than that I reflected on the girls I’ve dated and the notches I’ve gotten and of course all of the possible notches I’ve missed out on.

And, I realized something.  Cowgirl, like pretty much all of my notches this year and my whole life actually is average in the looks department.  Not a Hot Chick.

Matter of fact, for the sake of argument, let’s leave the 1-10 scale alone right now and break girls down into just four simple categories – Mud turtles, Average, Hot Average, and Hot Chicks.

(If you want to relate this to the 1-10 scale, just think Mud turtles are 4s or lower, Average are 5′s and 6′s, Hot Average are 7′s and Hot Chicks would be 8′s and up… that’s probably pretty reasonable.)

Now, back to what I was trying to say.  My life’s notches summed up, have majority come from Average chicks, and average chicks who were easy.  They have mainly been lay-ups.  Most of them did not take anywhere close to 7 hours to go from meet to bang, and most of them didn’t shit test me too much or require too much effort on my part.  I’ve gotten them almost entirely based on my looks.  That’s the average chicks – most of my notches.

I’ve fucked a couple Mud turtles in my life, but that’s really just bad experience with internet dating and girls not looking anything like their fucking pictures in real life.  It happened a couple of times and I figured, “hell, I’m already here, I might as well just fuck her and get the notch”.  Has a lot to do with why I’m all about meeting girls in person now and don’t do the internet thing anymore…

I’ve fucked a couple of Hot Average chicks, and those are the chicks I usually wind up fucking for months on end.  The ones I wind up in STR and LTRs with.  I’d put February Fling and My Last Ex in this category.

Then, you have the Hot Chicks.  These are the ones that have basically been unattainable for me.  I’ve had my shots with them here and there, as every chick in my History of Crushes post falls in this category.  These chicks, at least for me, have not been easy lays – obviously, as I haven’t fucked one of them yet.  They’re not unttainable though, when I think and reflect on it, I had at least some kind of a shot with all of the chicks in the History of Crushes post, I just didn’t know how to handle it.  When I blew it with Spaghetti, I thought that was a turning point in my life.  I thought what I needed to do was to get these chicks alone in a room and just be a lot more aggressive with them.  I thought I figured out some sort of secret.  But, that hasn’t actually worked like a charm.

Here is where it gets tricky for me….. the Hot Chick.  Obviously, these are the ones I want the most.  I am capable of getting of them, I know that, but what does it take?   In the past (again, referring to the History of Crushes post), I’ve probably been lucky to have a shot at about one hot chick a year.  But, that’s without working on my game and cold approaching much.  This year, I’ve had a solid shot with four hot chicks – Crush, CuteNewChick, Army Brat and Freshman Orientation.

As Army Brat left my house, I was left with blue balls and a wondering mind…. much the same way Crush always left me.  What would it take to fuck this girl? I mean, clearly, she’s (and I’m referring to both of them here) not completely opposed to the idea – she’s on my bed making out with me.  But then, when I try to escalate, I get, as Rookie would so elegantly put it, “hacksawed” and then the lame “it’s getting late” excuses come out.

The “it’s getting late” excuse is hilarious to me.  I could hang out with a hot chick until 1, 2, 3am on a weeknight and if we’re out and about or playing Wii or whatever, they’ll never bring up the “it’s getting late”, but when I try to escalate, now “it’s getting late, I have to go blah blah blah in the morning”.   “It’s getting late” clearly has nothing to do with the actual time.  It’s simply an excuse.

But, back to my current dilemma, what does it take to bang a Hot Chick?   I honestly don’t know, since I’ve never done it.  I can only go off of speculation here, which only leads to me asking more questions and inquiring about theories.

Which, brings me back to Mystery’s 7 Hour Rule…. maybe it takes 7 hours of comfort to fuck a hot chick?  Maybe Mystery was referring to Hot Chicks when he brought up this rule?    I don’t know…   but, I know CuteNewChick, Crush and Army Brat all would’ve taken longer than 7 hours.  Can’t really speak on how long Fresh Orientation would’ve taken since I didn’t spend much more time with her outside of the initial approach, but I can see her taking longer than 7 hours as well…

Back to Average Chicks for a second, just thinking about the ones I’ve “dated” this year.  Either I fuck them really early on (less than four hours) or I never get a second date with them.  What does that tell me?  That the 7 hour rule doesn’t apply to Average Chicks, they’re either easy or not worth my time….

But, Hot Chicks.  7 hours?  7-10 hours?  Is this what I should be planning for with them?  Back to the Hot Chicks I’ve dated this year, as opposed to my average chicks, I’ve always gotten a second date with my Hot Chicks.  Hmmm…. very interesting stuff here.  Average chick = bang early or no second date.  Hot chick = no bang, but you get a second date.   I’m literally blowing my own mind with this observation.   This doesn’t just apply to the chicks I’ve “dated” this year, but it pretty much applies to all the chicks I’ve dated my whole life.  This goes back to the whole Assanova post about Patience Being Power With Hot Women

So, now I need to find out how to game the hot chicks….

The other idea I have (and again, no success with these chicks, so take me throwing ideas out with a grain of salt) is the whole push/pull, be a challenge, soft rejection (they all mean about the same thing) idea.   Looking back on my interactions with Hot Chicks, I’ve never really “soft rejected” them.  I probably wasn’t much of a challenge.  They probably all knew that I’d fuck them in heartbeat… they probably never felt like they had to win me over, but that they already had me.   I get the concept.   But, how to implement it?   It’s one thing to push/pull and be a challenge during an approach… but, if Hot Chicks take 7-10 hours to get them into the sack, how do you continue to be a challenge over a 10 hour period?   The implementation is where it becomes harder to me.

I also find it harder to “challenge” Hot Chicks, because in my experience, Hot Chicks are less sexually aggressive.   Cowgirl was rubbing on my leg in Ihop without any kino escalation from me – Hot Chicks don’t tend to do stuff like that.   Also, a 7-10 hour period is generally going to draw out over a few separate dates, so the next question, how do you “appear to be a challenge”, “make her win you over” when you’re the one making plans to hang out with her?   “Let’s go do this and this tomorrow at 8.”  ”Okay.”  I would imagine any chick who knows I’m making time to hang out with her knows I’m interested, and that I’d fuck her…. how do I “make her win me over”?    Maybe, I need to brush up on my push/pull….

And, last, but not least… what’s on my mind, is the date formula.  I’m comfortable approaching in bars and clubs.  (Still need to do more day game – more on that later).  And, I feel like I have a very solid first date formula – I feel like all of my first dates went well this year – going out for drinks with a bounce or two and spanning the date over about 3 hours – real solid.   But, if a Hot Chick take 7-10 hours to bang… I’m going to need a second date and possibly (probably) a 3rd… (maybe even 4th?).

My second date ideas probably aren’t so great.  With Crush I did dinner and a movie at my house, it was cool, but watching a movie leads to cuddling together and not much chance to push/pull or game much.  My second date with Army Brat was watching TV at my place – same problem – not much talking while engaged in watching TV, too much cuddling taking place before sex has occurred, and not enough push/pull.  Second date with CuteNewChick, I was out of ideas, so we just went to a bar again – she didn’t seem to have a problem with it, but I’d feel lame if I kept doing bar dates with chicks.    So, what is a good second date option?  I still don’t know…   A walk in the park?  Grabbing some ice cream?  Playing Wii?  Going for lunch?  Going to a comedy show or other event?

Then, what about the third date?

I honestly don’t even know….

It also sucks that I leave town and move back to my hometown when I basically have two Hot Chicks on the burner right now that I could’ve practice this stuff on more in Army Brat and Freshman Orientation.    So far, I’ve got about 5 hours logged with Army Brat too, another date or two and I’d be in that 7-10 range….

But, now I live in a completely different city and I have to start all over again.

I’m out of my comfort zone again.  I don’t even know any wings down here.  Now, I gotta go out solo and approach more.  I also need to day game more.

I need to take the confidence boost from my recent one-night stand and from the fact that I’ve “dated” four Hot Chicks this year and realize that I’m capable of doing this shit.

I guess now, we’ll see what a new location holds for me.  I’m back in my hometown….

And the streets say I can’t go back home/ You know when I heard that?   When I was back home...” –  Jay-Z

18 Responses to The Average Chick vs. The Hot Chick (Willy Wonka Reflects…)

  1. RedTie August 13, 2010 at 9:21 am

    Just want to say I appreciate the honest and candid way you lay out your experiences, its refreshing. I feel you on the “Hot Chicks” dilemma, most of the girls I’ve closed have been “Average Hot” also and dealing with the former is a whole new ball game. I agree with patience been the key with hot girls but the two times I’ve ever been friend zoned in my life have been with hot girls that I tried to be patient with, so I’m yet to verify personally the validity of that approach. When I finally bang a TRULY hot girl I’ll be sure to share my experience. Just got out of a relationship a couple weeks ago and been hitting the clubs again, forget how unforgiving that environment is.

  2. Jake Turner August 13, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Good post. Moving back in with your parents is a raw deal. Fortunately mine have been on an extended holiday so I’ve had the place to myself, but it basically makes f-closes logistically much more difficult (depends on your relationship with your parents).

    As for hot girls vs average girls, I think I’d prefer lots of 6s and 7s to a few 8s and 9s, but that’s just me…

  3. culdcept August 13, 2010 at 10:19 am

    “I probably wasn’t much of a challenge. They probably all knew that I’d fuck them in heartbeat… they probably never felt like they had to win me over, but that they already had me.”

    This is very true and the reason why I don’t pay too much attention to the Mystery stuff. No matter how you act, the girls can sense how you really feel. It has to be real and the only way is actually have a lot of hot chicks. Then you truly don’t care because there is always another.

    It’ll be good to start over in a new place and who knows how much better you’ll do. Maybe you’ll find a wing that knows game like you do. Living with your parents will limit things a bit, but even Roosh was able to get away with that. You should probably read up on his stuff about when he was living with is dad.

    • Sleeper August 13, 2010 at 11:02 am

      “No matter how you act, the girls can sense how you really feel. It has to be real and the only way is actually have a lot of hot chicks. Then you truly don’t care because there is always another.”

      There. Right there. That’s it. Folks that say ‘fake it till you make it’ apparently don’t know this or they had other factors (height, extremely good looks) that cancelled shit out. My boy keeps telling me this all the time, you have to not care, and it’s virtually impossible for me to not care unless I really had all those options.

      I’m seriously contemplating taking some acting classes to get past this. Not only does it make for a good story to tell and puts a skill under my belt, but there may be some hot chicks in the classes.

  4. Solo August 13, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    Damn Wonka

    I love this post, props on keeping it real, my respect for you went up a notch, a lot of bloggers talk about this hot chick and that hot chick but i don’t see it. With you it’s a play by play, granted the over-analyzation can get annoying, but when I was 6-7 months in the game, i was just as bad or maybe worst.

    With almost 2 years in, I can say I never smashed my personal super hot chick either. I’ve gamed them though and honestly speaking with every step I’ve taking on getting better, I then take two steps back. All I can say is keep trucking, I can honestly say I’m more comfortable talking to hot girls, even going on a date with them…..

  5. Black Rebel August 13, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Manliness.

    Copious amounts of it.

    In a year when I’m making 15k a month, you can come live with me for a month, lots of girls in the city.

    Why is she in your bed doing her thing if she’s not expecting to get fucked?

    No rape obviously…but push.

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  10. Gorbachev August 15, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Seriously, a cocktease. If she’s in your bed, she’s expecting sex. She wants to be overwhelmed – without being raped (huge difference).

    But I love your scale. It basically sums it up nicely.

  11. Doug1 August 23, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Good second dates might be a walk a particularly nice park, or a drive hunting for covered bridges or whatever interesting rural thing is in your area, etc. Or going to a summer carnival. Something a little more unusual for early dating that allows for a lot of talking, but not getting into the provider role.

    Looking back on my interactions with Hot Chicks, I’ve never really “soft rejected” them. I probably wasn’t much of a challenge. They probably all knew that I’d fuck them in heartbeat… they probably never felt like they had to win me over, but that they already had me. I get the concept. But, how to implement it? It’s one thing to push/pull and be a challenge during an approach… but, if Hot Chicks take 7-10 hours to get them into the sack, how do you continue to be a challenge over a 10 hour period? The implementation is where it becomes harder to me.

    This insight is key. You’d do a lot better with 8s if you treated them like 5.5′s or 6s. Your indifference to Cowgirl, and your stubborness towards her turned her one. Same would have been true of some of the 8s you’re written up. You chased all of them in texting and on the phone for example.

    Crush was a hard case because she clearly was trying you out for boyfriend material and wasn’t at all interested in being a fling. The most effective thing to do with her would have been to act like you simply wouldn’t keep going on dates with her if she didn’t put out. But if she did, you’d be interested in keeping seeing her.

    You get far to accommodating to 8′s, very hot girls. Again treating them like fun 5.5′s will get you a lot more mileage with them. Your best moment with Crush was when she said she was a little bit scared of you. I think she mean of being pumped and dumped by you. It was good she thought you had other action going on. But then the way you chased her wrecked that. You should have been instantly dismissive and uninterested in her when she said it’s getting late. No kissing or hugging, no walking her anywhere, etc. Not mad or real irritated. Just uninterested. Waste of time girl.

  12. Doug1 August 23, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Another way to put it is you give hot girls affection too easily. They basically should have to suck or fuck you to keep getting attention and affection.

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